--favourite topic ko 'to dun.. hehee
hindi por que umiiyak ka habang kumakanta eh Espirituwal ka na.
todo bigay ka magpuri, pero may kasalan ka pa na nakimkim, hindi mo naisuko sa PANGINOON.. wala ding kwenta. sabi nga "hindi lahat ng tumatawag sa aking "Panginoon! Panginoon! ay dinidinig ko."(Matthew 7:21)
sabi nga sa "ushering of glory", "heart's attitude"..kailangan maging malinis tayo na "living sacrifice". wulang pintas bago humarap at magbigay ng papuri at pagsamba sa PANGINOON. 
ah.. actually emotions are just manifestation of what you feel upon worship but it is not the basis of presence..
i ask you sis,, saan tayo magiingat?
na maging sacrifice na may pintas tayo everytime na magpupuri tayo sa PANGINOON..
na may mga kasalanan pa tayo na hindi naisuko sa oras na nagbibigay na tayo ng pag-pupuri..
God changes a person from glory to glory.. perfection by His way not our way.. a man can be good by works.. like a rich man who can say being obedient following commandments but regret the most important..
what is that? well parang ganito, many people follow the law of the philippine constitution because they dont want to go prison or they dont want their reputation to be ruined..
follow out of love..
sacrifice is just a manifestations of love..
Don't be affected of someone's shortcomings, better is a man that shout he sinned than a man with a straight face claiming self righteous.
I am not bothered by somebody's approach in worship. i mostly care about if am sinning by judging another person, exceeding my limitations forgetting i am also a redeemed/forgiven individual.
who can say to himself that he is cleansed by himself..
8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast. Eph 2:8-9
actually sa katotohanan,bihira ang ganyan,sa loob ng church sa ngayon bihira k makikita ng ganyan,ung tipong peter b,ung madaanan lang may gumagaling n, kc nga lukewarm ang mga kristiano,they go to church and worship but never ask for God to minister the lost,the beggars,street chidren,broken family,the one who lives at smokey mountains,ung tipong s ministry palang my pag tatyagaan kn at sacrifices n, bihira lng ito,di gaya ng mga apostles sinusuyod nila ang city at provinces to spread the good news and heal the sick and castout demon poses,dpat ang church naka align s ganitong manifestations kc ito and ministry ni Jesus,but some never understand,kala nila maganda ang church, sa pisikal, but in the inside walang programa,wlang sacrifices sa prayer,walang nag hahangad mag fast ng 40 days puro one meal lang,eh hindi gagalaw ang Diyos nun..Tandaan natin kapag nakita natin ung signs n pag minister ng Holy spirit, dun mo palang masasabi na malusog ang church..yun ang true fire.. fire from the Holy spirit...if our church look like this na lukewarm,we must move on,bumuo agad ng prayer team,hanggat maaari triple ang dami ng mananalangin sa church,and always submit lng s mga leaders,at kung sila man ay may pag kukulang,pray and pray parin nten cla,di nmn tyo matatalisod dhil sa Diyos tyo naka tutok..yan kc reality kya minsan mahirap makausad ang church dahil sa mga kahinaan ng iba,but never look at it to pospone the plans ng Diyos,we must move on hindi para may pagalitan kundi manalangin at magpanalanginan,kung sa tingin mo'y ika'y mapapahamak sa pag sunod mo sa kanila,God will reveal it,if not, God will direct.we must have the true fire. kelangan lang harapin ang reality
SPIRITUAL: bago ka palang umalis ng bahay, excited ka na para sa sama samang pag pupuri sa LOrd,kasama ang ibang mananampalataya sa church, dun na naka set ang mind mo:
FLESH OR CARNAL: sa bahay pa lang excited na rin.....na makita ang crush mo sa loob church; or excited ka na i display ung bago mong damit, or excited ka na pomorma sa harap kung ikaw ay isang worship leader or musician sa church, kung ikaw ay isang pastor excited ka na rin na i deliver ung message mo na patungkol lang sa isang tao sa loob ng church dahil nagkasala xa nung nkaraang linggo..whehehe
cute explanation.. heheh thank you po!!
Spiritual
-Di nagsasawang magbasa ng bible, day and night.
-may quiet time with the Lord more than 10mins, trice a day.
-Nasasabik na may maka share about the good news from the past sunday service.
-Madalas mag speak out ng blessings at pag ibig sa kapwa mananampalataya.
-Di pumapayag na hindi makakagawa ng mabuti sa ikalalago ng gawain ng Diyos.
Flesh
-Di nagsasawang magbasa ng text kahit during sunday service.
-may quite time more than 1hour sa sunday service kasi tulog.
-nasasabik na may maka share about the good news chikka of the day patungkol sa weakness ng leaders, pastors at ibang kapatiran.
-Madalas mag speak out the blessings at pag ibig sa sarili, lagin siya lang ang bida at magaling.
-di papayag na hindi makagawa ng mabuti, sa mall at sa kanya kanyang tambayan hatak pa ang church members lalo na't may gawain ng Diyos.
hehehe..
Amen!!
my fire kng my change. . . .
gets?
correct me if im wrong. . .
but our pastor always told us that. . .
there's a so called fire if there's a change in your life. . . .
it not about the feelings
it's about how it changes you to a better you. . .
"how it changes you to a better you.."
.. salamat po bro Otm!! :)
familiar with the title.. alam ko kung sino ang nag post nyang idea na yan..
True Fire and false fire..
pano natin malalaman kung Espirituwal o makalaman lang yung pagsamba na nagagawa natin?
Chop ko yung question mo ha..
Paano malalaman - espiritual na pagsamba - makalaman na pagsamba
well, i will impart to you a piece of what i know...
example natin sa isang bahay, may kanya kanyang gawain bahay ang bawat isa, isang example ko dito ay yung paghuhugas ng mga plato. May tatlong tao na naatasang maghugas ng pingan, walang oras o panahon kung sino, basta alam lang ang pagkakasunod sunod. may kanya kanyang istilo ng paghuhugas ang bawat isa. may isa na yung mga pinagkainan lang ang hinuhugasan, ang isa naman ay pinupunasan pati ang kalan na pinaglutuan, at ang isa naman ay nahuhugas, napupunas, nagwawalis ng kusina pagkatapos. Kung sa isang tao na "nakakakilala" sa bawat kilos ng naghuhugas ng pinggan, malalaman mo kung sino ang huling kumilos sa gawaing yun dahil sa pagkakakilala mo sa gawa... and of course di yun malalaman ng bisita o mga taong hindi nakakasama ang mga taong yun, ngunit kung siya ay dun nakatira,malalaman nya dahil makikita at nakakasamanay ang mga yun kaya malalaman ang gawa ng bawat isa.
So i think you already know where this is going to..
paano malalaman? Know how God works when we worship Him, its not in a emotional level, performing like cheer leaders that put the crowd in a happy/ wild state, or like a drama narrator that make a person cry out of guilt and condemnation. In God's presence alone, even without excessive words, kahit music lang like david plays music for king Saul that releases him from demonic slavery. its not the talent but what David possesses, the favor of God. if a righteous man of God just raise his hand, the spirit of God comes down.. when peter's body shadowed a sick man while passing, healing executes,why, is not peter's ,but God with and within.
pano natin malalaman kung Espirituwal o makalaman lang yung pagsamba na nagagawa natin?
know God,then see his works.
about sa makalaman na pagsamba..
i have no idea..