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Mga kapatid, may mga grooves at lesson ba kau na nais i share? Post any drum lessons here. Lahat welcome!

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PARADIDDLE!

share me lang sa inyo itong PARADDIDLE Rudiments.

Q: anu nga ba ang PARADDIDLE?
A: isa ito sa 40 rudiments ng PAS. (samahan ng mga drummers)

Q: Paano ito i-execute?
A: Basically ginagawa ito sa pamamagitan ng 2 single stroke at 1 double stroke (alternate hands)

Ex: RLRR LRLL - yung R ang right hand at yung L ang Left hand.
-sabihin mo ito habang pumapalo ka : RLRR LRLL.

Q: Bakit tinawag na PARADDIDLE ito?
A: Normaly ang karaniwang pangalan ng rudiments ay hinango mula sa tunog nito.
sa halip na sabihin mo ang RLRR LRLL habang pumapalo ka palitan mo ito ng
PARADDIDLE.

ex: PA = R
RA = L
DID = R
DLE = R

PA = L
RA = R
DID = L
DLE = L

ibig sabihin yung PARA ang single stroke at DIDDLE ang double stroke
kaya pag sinabi mo na PARA-PARADDIDLE equal sya sa RLRLRR LRLRLL.
ang PARADIDDLE-DIDLE naman at equal sa RLRRLL RLRRLL.
from there pwede na u gumawa ng iba't ibang combination ng PARADDIDLE.

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panu poh ung double

panu poh ung double paradidle?

ska my ibat ibang klase ng paradidle?

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otm wrote:panu poh ung double

otm wrote:
panu poh ung double paradidle?

ska my ibat ibang klase ng paradidle?

yun sinabi ni drummerai na PARA-PARADDIDLE, yun ang double paraddidle. RLRLRR LRLRLL.

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Re : PARADIDDLE

otm wrote:
panu poh ung double paradidle?

Tama ang sinabi ni neriweaver kapatid! Yung Double PARADIDDLE at PARA-PARADIDDLE ay iisa lang. ang inuulit dun ay yung unang dalawang single stroke. kaya tinawag yun na Double PARA - DIDDLE. (or PARA-PARADIDDLE)

otm wrote:
ska my ibat ibang klase ng paradidle?

Generally speaking isa lang ang PARADIDDLE, Nag kakaiba-iba na lang yun sa execution sa pag lagay ng accent. Yung ibang drummers pinag lalaruan ang PARADIDDLE gaya nito:

1.PARA-PARA-PARADIDDLE (Triple PARADIDDLE)
2.PARA-PARA-PARADIDDLE-DIDDLE
3.PARA-PARADIDDLE-DIDDLE-DIDDLE-DIDDLE

yung iba inverted PARADIDDLE ginagawa.

yung iba naman Permutation ng PARADIDDLE (Gaya ni David Garibaldi)

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the reason i ask about that

the reason i ask about that double paradidle is because i've watched this guy on youtube. . . his name is Robbie France. . . if you want you can watch him play. . pero thanks poh sa mga comments. . atleast na educate p q hehehe. . .

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A Little Question?

Eow Mga Bro Ask Lng Po Cnu Po Pwd Mg Bgay Skin Ng Basic Sa Pg
Plo Ng Jazz?

Kc Want Q Dn Po M22nan Ung Plo Ng Jazz Eh?

(Ask lng po) Little 2 Half...

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Jazz Drumming!

LiTtLe 2 HaLf wrote:
Eow Mga Bro Ask Lng Po Cnu Po Pwd Mg Bgay Skin Ng Basic Sa Pg
Plo Ng Jazz?

Kc Want Q Dn Po M22nan Ung Plo Ng Jazz Eh?

(Ask lng po) Little 2 Half...

hi LiTtLe 2 HaLf, medyo mabigat yata gusto u matutunan? pero ayos yan bro.! dapat tayong mga musicians ng LORD di nakapako sa isang Genre, mas marami tayong alam na palo mas masaya at maganda!

since jazz ang gusto mo matutunan im assuming na marunong kana bumasa ng nota?
medyo mahirap kasi mag turo pag pa tenga lang (though my mga gifted child talaga na mahusay pandinig). isa pa naka forum tayo di me sa iyo mapapakita yung palo. pero i try my very best para maintindihan mo ang basic ng jazz groove.

let me tackle first the broken eight note triple.(eto ang magiging foundation ng palo mo sa ride cymbals)

-pag sinabi nating broken eight note triple ito ay parang 8th note triplet kaso may ilan dun na hindi kapapaluin kaya ito tinawag na broken eight note triplet.

eto ang example ng eight note triple vs. eight note

ito ang bilang na eight note triple

eto naman ang mga links para sa jazz cymbals pattern mo:
jazz ride cymbal 1
jazz ride cymbal 2

Bro. Ride Cymbals palang ang pinag uusapan natin dito. wala pa yung hi-hat,bass at snare drum.

para di ka mabigla i suggest i master mo muna ito. (bibitinin muna kita ng konti...uhmmmm....hope you understand)

pag master mo na yung mga pattern sabihin mo sa akin, tapos unti unti nating idadagdag yung hi hat, bass, at snare.

hope na nakatulong me. hanggang sa muli!!!

if talagang gusto mo na ikarir ang jazz drumming sa dako dako dun...

i suggest this book might help you

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Ty...

Bro Ty Sa Kaalaman Mlaki Ang Natulong Ni2 Skin Bro...

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guys... if you want to share

guys... if you want to share something about drumming.. create a youtube account and point a link to it.. that would be nice.. i'll try to do the same... let's share with each other what we know...

that's a good resource that would maybe help each and everyone... start with a question then make a video of answering the question...

try ko gawa ng pinapratice ko hehe... chanllenging din kasi to force myself to practice again...

example..

how do we practice triplet rudiments in a musical and fill context?
hand and foot fill combinations...
practicing triplet feel over straight time and vice versa...
triplet groove superimposing a straight time hihat accent...
etc. etc...

stay tuned...

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aabangan ko yan kuya tzabs!

aabangan ko yan kuya tzabs! hahaha!

sa fills nagagamit ko na triplets, minsan pang exercise ko.

FRLFLRFRLFLRFRLFLR (F stands for kick drum, R,L for hands.) with dynamics and accents maganda din tunog pag napabilis.

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LiTtLe 2 HaLf wrote:Bro Ty Sa

LiTtLe 2 HaLf wrote:
Bro Ty Sa Kaalaman Mlaki Ang Natulong Ni2 Skin Bro...

Salamat Po..... God Bless....... Blessing Will Fall Unto U...

(Thanks S Share...) LiTtLe 2 HaLf

You're Always welcome bro.!

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masaya ito!

sean wrote:
guys... if you want to share something about drumming.. create a youtube account and point a link to it.. that would be nice.. i'll try to do the same... let's share with each other what we know...

example..

how do we practice triplet rudiments in a musical and fill context?
hand and foot fill combinations...
practicing triplet feel over straight time and vice versa...
triplet groove superimposing a straight time hihat accent...
etc. etc...

Bro. masaya yang naisip mo! abangan me yan! try me rin gawa!

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sige.. khit simple digicam

sige.. khit simple digicam lang siguro tapos windows movie maker edits lng...
or kung pwede sa studio sa work ko para mas malinis..

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...mukhang msaYa ata yan

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Sana....

sana sa guitars meron din...

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...@ronnie, mrami dn yan..

...@ronnie, mrami dn yan.. bnigay ni Lord ang mga yan .. ang mga ibat ibang larangan ng music ay ipinagkatiwala nya sa atin to enlarge more about it.. kay if u worried about guitar.. merun yan.. di pwedeng wala ee.. ok? hehehe!!

...actually, pnipilit qng maintndhan ung mga snsbi nla kx, ung nag turo sken mag drums ni isang lesson sa pagbasa ng mga beat or kht anung facts about drumming ay wala xhang nai2ro.. kYA i really thank this site.. bka d2 matuto ako.. kx ung nagturo xken actual basic beat agad xha.. di xha nag discuss about sa mga tawag tawag na beat na pnapalo ko.. bsta bsta nlng nya ko iniwanan ng gnun gnun na lng.. hehehe!

...may tnung ako "cnu nagpa uso ng double peds?" hehehe! pnu ito nai express sa mga drummer para mgaya ito.. And take it as one of the techniques sa pggawa ng isang creative and attractive beat..

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double pedz????

gABzzz24 wrote:

...may tnung ako "cnu nagpa uso ng double peds?" hehehe! pnu ito nai express sa mga drummer para mgaya ito.. And take it as one of the techniques sa pggawa ng isang creative and attractive beat..

karaniwan pag nakakarinig tayo ng double pedz heavy metal music and hard rock agad ang naiisip natin. pero ginagamit din ito in some forms of jazz, fusion, and punk.

sabi nila yung idea ng double pedz ay mula sa jazz drummer na si Louie Bellson, naisip nya ito nung siya ay high school. ilan sa mga kilalang jazz artist na gumagamit ng double pedz ay sina Ray McKinley at Ed Shaughnessy noong mga 1940s at 1950s, mas lalong nakilala ito noong 1960s sa pamamagitan ng mga rock drummers na sina Ginger Baker of Cream, Mitch Mitchell of the Jimi Hendrix Experience, Keith Moon of The Who and Nick Mason of Pink Floyd.

kinalaunan naging part na talaga ng set up ng drums ang double pedz lalo na sa mga extreme metal drumming na tugtugan. gamit nila ay 32nd note! just imagine kung gaano kabilis ito. bali,dalawang 16th note ang katumbas.(bigla ko tuloy naisip... siguro mabibilis din silang tumakbo!) Si Derek Roddy ang isa sa mga nalulupitan ako na pumalo kung doble pedz ang usapan.

Syempre may mga nilalang pa rin na ayaw gumamit ng double pedz, gaya nina Iron Maiden drummer Nicko McBrain at John Bonham, of Led Zeppelin. Simple lang naman ang dahilan nila...... halimbawa si bonham kaya nya gumamit ng single pedz na mas mabilis pa kaysa sa ibang mga drummers nungkapanahunan nya na gumagamit ng double pedz. in short si John Bonham ay isang Halimaw!!!

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